"Pelican Test" ... wtf is this shit?

#14
by CurbStomper - opened

Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle
Screenshot From 2026-07-21 07-42-19

Its even worse on other tests.

I tried to do it too with your exact same prompt with IQ4_NL quantization and this is what came out

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Very strange

Last minute update, I also asked him to improve it and he basically put it on a motorbike hahahahahah

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You are using the jinja template provided and MTP? Can you post your llama server launch config?

No, I'm using it completely crudely. My llama server launch looks like this:

./llama-server.exe -m "J:\Qwen3.6-27B-Fable-Fus-711-UnHeretic-NM-DAU-NEO-MAX-NEO-MTP-IQ4_NL.gguf" --mmproj "J:\Qwen3.6-27B_mmproj-BF16.gguf" -c 100000 -ngl 99 -fa on -ub 1024 --cache-type-k turbo3 --cache-type-v turbo2 --cache-reuse 256 --mlock --no-mmap --port 8000 -np 1 --spec-type draft-mtp --spec-draft-n-max 4 -fit off --slot-save-path "J:\text-cache\llama_chat_cache"

2026-07-21 23_04_51-Mozilla Firefox

With max reasoning on Q_8 variant.

"One shot prompt"? Or did you also ask him to improve it?

I've noticed the KV cache degrades somewhat easily on the Qwen 27B models.. At least in my experience. Perhaps try it on Q4, or even better, Q8 KV cache?

Very interesting, I'm using TurboQuant in 3-bit quantization if I'm not mistaken and yet it seems quite solid to me

I've noticed the KV cache degrades somewhat easily on the Qwen 27B models.. At least in my experience. Perhaps try it on Q4, or even better, Q8 KV cache?

Use --swa-checkpoints 48 for llama-server - it will help whis this problem.

2026-07-21 23_04_51-Mozilla Firefox

With max reasoning on Q_8 variant.

what do you mean by max reasoning?

DavidAU changed discussion title from wtf is this shit? to "Pelican Test" ... wtf is this shit?

@Dhrhciebcy Don't use a lot of kv cache quantization with qwen models! It's their biggest weakness.

@Dhrhciebcy Don't use a lot of kv cache quantization with qwen models! It's their biggest weakness.

@hgeist For now I'm continuing to use it with the quantization I mentioned earlier. I also tried the --swa-checkpoints 48 flag suggested by @auf1r2 ; at first it seemed like there was some benefit, but after trying to remove it, maybe not. Anyway, aside from a few minor quirks in responses, which however I get in the exact same way as Gemini Pro (a far superior model), I'd say the response consistency seems solid and consistent even with this quantization. Perhaps TurboQuant works better than expected? Ahahah
Thanks for the advice anyway :)

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